The Fountain of Youth World Summit with Geoff Thompson, martial arts guru, best selling author and BAFTA winning screen writer.
Geoff Thompson: What I did find though Kevin is that once I got to the top of my pyramid I was automatically at the bottom of another pyramid because there’s always something out there and if you don’t have any discomfort in your life, or any fear or any adrenaline then you’re probably too comfortable because there’s no growth in comfort.
Kevin Gianni: Right.
Geoff Thompson: And obviously there are levels of consciousness beyond this chemical cocktail and the levels of consciousness that I have accessed intermittently and there are levels of consciousness that I am looking to access more because there is a place above and beyond fear where, you know, where we can be even more successful but at this moment in time I’m still juggling with that and enjoying it. I’m enjoying the challenge. I like to be out there. I like these mountains to climb. You know, it’s because I’ve developed a relationship with it. I realize that, you know, I’m not being punished. It’s like that lovely poem that Rumi did about the chick pea being boiled in the pot and it’s trying to climb out and the chef is pushing him back in with the ladle and the chef says to him you think I’m punishing you but I’m not. He says I’m just trying to make you sweet so you can sit with the rice and the herbs. And when the chick pea realizes that he’s not being punished he says push me in twice because I want to be sweet. And whenever I find myself in a very uncomfortable situation when I’m growing, which is often I always say to myself push me in twice because I want to grow. I want to be sweet, you know, and that’s where the real growth is.
Kevin Gianni: So when you’re in these uncomfortable situations I want to stay around this area here because I think it’s such a fantastic philosophy to actually, you know, lean into the sharp edges, as you say. Let’s talk a little bit more about, you know, ways and say if someone wants to be healthy or say if someone wants to be more successful what are some of the ways that they can lean into these edges? I mean when you feel that anxiousness or that anxiety I mean do you just do the thing that you’re afraid of. I mean and how do you get your head around that?
Geoff Thompson: It’s like lifting weights really Kevin. You start off with light weights, you know, and then you build up. You build up a senue mentality by adding weight to the bar. It’s really as simple as that. It’s just almost like antigravity techniques for your mind. So in the case of my fear pyramid I started off with something that wasn’t too frightening, something that I could achieve like overcoming my fear of spiders. Then I added another fear of dentists. I had a very strong fear. I didn’t go to the dentist for about ten years. So I returned to the dentist and had treatment and was completely desynthetized to it. So I started doing things that weren’t massively challenging but that they were things that were bullying me, things that were beating me up.
Kevin Gianni: Um-hum.
Geoff Thompson: And I just started gradually turning into them and I found that if I just turned in the direction of my fear I started to get lots of help. It was almost as though the universe conspired to help me. You know, the right books would land on my desk, the right people would come into my conversation. I’d get an e-mail with an inspiring quote on it or I’d hear something on the radio that would help. Once you turn into the right direction, you know, the universe conspires to make it happen. I remember watching a program with a gardener and he was talking about plants. And he said the great thing about plants is that they want to grow. They want to grow. They want to help you. And I feel as though the universe is like that with us. It wants us to grow. It wants us to achieve. It wants us to fulfill all our dreams but it’s not going to happen if we don’t move. We have to initiate it. So when you turn in the direction of your discomfort, lean into them sharp edges. Even if it’s just gradually you will start to get assistance and that’s when the miracles start to happen. And whether you read in the Bhagavad-Gita or the Bible or Lao Tzu or whether you’re talking to one of the Swamees or the yogi’s they all tell you the same thing. You orchestrate and control your own universe. When you act things change. It’s something Leonardo da Vinci said. He said when a bird lands in a tree the whole world changes. Everything affects everything. So when you act everything changes. And I think that’s partly why people are fearful because they fear change. And what we need to do is not just, like I said about night traveling; we have to engage the change. We have to turn into the change. Well Gandhi said we have to be the change we want to see. People want to change the world but they haven’t got the discipline to change their underpants. So if we want to start doing big things then we have to start working on the little things. So one of the biggest ways of completely changing your world for the better is to start with palette; get your food right.
Kevin Gianni: Okay.
Geoff Thompson: Gandhi went from being a peasant to having two hundred million followers. Two hundred million people followed Gandhi and he built that up from control of palette. He said that if you control palette all of the other senses fell into line. And when you control the senses you control yourself and when you controlled yourself you literally control the world. This is what Gandhi said.
Kevin Gianni: Um-hum.
Geoff Thompson: So he went from being a peasant. He trained to be a lawyer but he was a terrible lawyer. He never won a case for two years. His family thought he might starve, you know; to having two million followers. He did that by educating himself, which is why this program is massively important because information gives you power. He educated himself and then he started controlling himself beginning with palette. So there’s lots of people out there now who are listening to this I’m sure who are overweight or unhealthy because they eat wrong.
Kevin Gianni: Um-hum.
Geoff Thompson: So if they start by controlling their food, which is a very difficult thing to do and it’s very uncomfortable to change. If they start with that they will empower themselves immediately. So once you start controlling yourself then you have a shot at controlling your world, controlling your universe. It’s like we are the conductor but we have to get ourselves in shape first.
Kevin Gianni: Um-hum. So do you believe that food, and palette and everything that you’re eating and taking in controls emotions, and reactions and things like that?
Geoff Thompson: Yeah. Someone said to me the other day I’ve just realized how important palette is in training. I said no palette is the training. It’s huge. It’s massive and it’s not just my theory. It’s science. You know, what you eat affects the adrenals and if the adrenals are active and you’re in sympathetic nervous system, which is far to a flight then you are in a predatory state of mind. It’s very difficult to be positive and to be spiritual when you are feeling in this primary state. You know, when you’re almost back to this hunter gatherers state.
Kevin Gianni: Um-hum.
Geoff Thompson: So not just what you eat but what you ingest, what you watch on television, the conversations you have, what you listen to on the radio, what you read. All of it feeds the body and the mind. One of the main foods of the brain is information. So if you’re having, you know, if you’re having junk food information like tabloids speak or pornography or violence, you know, watching too much violence. All of that affects the adrenals. When the adrenals are triggered adrenaline is released and we go into sympathetic nervous system. The whole physiology is changed; literally, your whole physiology changes. Most people are walking around in a predatory state all the time and they wonder why they get ill all the time. And they wonder why they’re aggressive. And they wonder why have all this displacement. So palette is absolutely vital. I think it’s the big secret because palette just isn’t about the food you put in your mouth. It’s about the information you put in your mind. And again this isn’t just a loose theory. Deepak Chopra says that what you listen to, what you watch actually becomes chemicals in your body and if you watch it actually becomes flesh because, you know, if you start watching too much of the wrong thing or get too much of the wrong information in it leaves its mark on the brain and literally leaves ridges on the brain of memory and track.
Kevin Gianni: Um-hum.
Geoff Thompson: So what you watch and what you listen to is flesh. It becomes real. It becomes physical. That’s why I’m very careful about who I talk to, very careful about what I read, very careful about what I watch, you know. I don’t mind if there’s violence in a film or sex as long as it’s responsible story telling. You know, I write some things with violence in but they’re all responsible story telling. It’s all about showing the real consequences of violence. The real consequences of any access, you know, anything that can over stimulate the adrenals. So it’s getting away from, you know, too much stimulation; bringing ourselves into a more moderate state, having control over ourselves. I think it was Tolstoy who said everybody wants to change the world. Nobody wants to change himself. So start with the self. You know, there’s a great thing in the Bhagavad-Gita, which I live my life by. It says lift the self by the self. Never let the self droop down because the self is the self’s only friend and the self is the self’s only enemy. If you can grasp that then take that. You can literally change the world. There’s nothing you can’t achieve. The minute you start projecting, and blaming and walking around with big placards and trying to change things out there before you change things in here you disempower yourself.
Kevin Gianni: Um-hum. And do you believe that everyone has the power to change the world?
Geoff Thompson: Oh, cocky yeah because everybody’s connected. Whether you look at the Bible, which says we’re all one or science in string theory, which says everything’s connected. You know, everything’s affected. That’s what I said about Leonardo. You know, when a bird lands in a tree everything changes.
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